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  4. Right — have been messing about with this thing for maybe a few months now and I keep coming back, so thought I’d say something since a lad on another thread asked me last week. Am UK based, mostly bet football and racing, small stakes, just so you know where I’m coming from.

    What got me on it was honestly pretty stupid — I could never figure out what an e/w payout actually was with 1/5 odds a place. Basically I’d wing it and get a shock. These days I punch the numbers in before I place anything, even the boring singles.

    Their single bet calculator is the part I use most — you put in your stake, the odds and you get returns with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the fiddly ones — trebles returns, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, honestly that’s where I’d always lose track. If you fancy a poke about, it lives at how to calculate implied probability with fractional odds and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    One thing that genuinely changed how I bet was the geekier extras. They’ve got an odds-to-probability thing and it makes obvious the overround, and a kelly calculator — I use half kelly as the full version is a quick route to a dead bankroll. Dutching calculator is decent when I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. Its design looks a bit basic — no flash, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On my phone it works though the acca grid are a squeeze. There’s no app, it’s a website and that’s it — doesn’t bother me but worth saying.

    Right, that’s me. Free, barely any ads, does the job. If you still adds it up in their head, have a look — it’s saved me a load of “wait, that’s it?” moments.

  5. OK — have been messing about with this thing for maybe four months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so figured I’d say something since a mate asked me last week. I’m in the UK, mainly do football and horses, a fiver here and there, for context.

    How I found it was honestly a bit daft — I couldn’t ever get my head round what an e/w return actually was when the place terms changed. Basically I’d eyeball it and moan when the payout landed. These days I punch the numbers in before I place anything, even a simple single bet.

    Their single bet calculator is the one I open most — you put in your stake, the odds and you get profit and total return with no faffing, fractions or decimals. There’s also the bigger stuff — doubles and trebles maths, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, and that’s where most people I know mess it up. If you want a look, it lives at novig calculator and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    One thing that actually changed how I bet were the more serious extras. They’ve got an probability converter and it makes obvious how much the bookie’s taking, and there’s the kelly tool — I use half kelly since full stakes are terrifying. The dutching one gets used a fair bit if I’m spreading across selections.

    It’s not perfect mind. Its layout is a bit basic — no flash, it’s clearly function over form. On mobile it’s fine but the lucky 63 breakdown need a bit of scrolling. There’s no app, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me but you asked.

    Right, that’s me. Doesn’t cost anything, barely any ads, works. If anyone even now does the maths on paper, try it — saves me a fair few arguments with the bookie.

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  10. Right — been on this thing for something like a few months now and I keep coming back, reckon I’d write something up since a mate asked me a few days back. Am based in the UK, mostly do football and horses, a fiver here and there, for context.

    How I found it was honestly pretty stupid — I could never figure out what an each way return would be when the place terms changed. I’d just eyeball it and moan when the payout landed. Now stick my stake in first, every time, even the boring singles.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the one I open most — you put in your stake, the odds and you get returns instantly, either odds format. There’s also the multiples — acca and treble returns, a lucky 15, yankees, honestly that’s where I’d always mess it up. Have a go yourself, it’s here [url=https://freebet-calculator.com/bet-calculator/implied-probability]how to calculate implied probability with fractional odds[/url] and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    What really shifted things for me is the more serious tools. The odds-to-probability converter that shows the overround, and there’s the kelly tool — I stick to fractional kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. The dutching one is decent if I’m spreading across selections.

    Not all sunshine though. Its interface looks very functional, let’s say — no frills, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. Phone-wise it works but the bigger tables are a squeeze. And no app, just the site — doesn’t bother me but you asked.

    So yeah. Free, barely any ads, works. If you even now does the maths on paper, give it a go — saved me a load of arguments with the bookie.

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